He will do it for 30 days at a time, but will give me another 30 right after the first if he thinks the first didnt make me submissive enough, during my everyday spankings. Make sure that everything you support is not flushed down the toilet because of arrogance, intolerance and a misplaced desire for controlling peoples lives. Youve also been influenced by perverse secular culture. Example please? There is plenty of information out there, why dont you do your research instead of spreading intolerance and hatry. It took such a long time because that line had been blurred from growing up and then being married. Thank you for writing and shedding light on another form of domestic abuse that doesnt get talked about very much. We use the Bible in our lessons. She will need to learn some self-control with not crying out, or bite a pillow to keep quiet. Isnt bullying between two consenting children? Ben was instructed first to not spank me over my panties, but to spank me nude, and after about 2 swats I was crying enough to get Ben to stop. Those wacky scientists have way more education than you or I, so obviously you cannot correlate education with wise and good choices. We were told that it was biblicalto spank our teenagers, even ones who were overlegal adulthood. The argument is that its consensual. Of course I think she deserved to get punished for complaining but I still felt bad for her. I dont know if my Mom was ever spanked. Daisy, I just quoted those verses. I was terrified! Update (12/28/15): previously, there were two YouTube videos posted of Dr. Phils showposted here. Send in your testimonials! Thats in the Bible. Only to find out that my husband has talked to my father about this lifestyle and has his blessing. A Lone Voice, you have major issues with women having the right to say NO to men. If adults have the right to spank those who disagree with them, well, I shudder to think of all the spank-fests thatd happen on every count; in every church meeting, every work-place. Now, some Christian ladies are happy to accept the term feminism and apply it to themselves, so long as it is defined as something like the belief that women are equal to men and should be treated with respect by all. Cant get strength that will defend them a la Roy Rogers, so you get strength that will slap you around a la Gray or John Wayne in his worse moments. Jennifer, I moved your comment to a new post so more people could see it and respond. I dont know where the line is, but looking back now I think I can say that spanking even at 14 or 15 was not right and certainly not up to the age I was. This is the reason tolerance is essential if you want your ideas to pass the test of time. I wanted to get far away from my vile self worshipping misogynistic Christian father, I never wanted to have sex again or be subject to a man again. I am sorry. Christian Domestic Discipline, wife spanking, Christian Patriarchy Movement, Spanking of Adult Children, Denominational Practices and teachings Two summers ago, I received a phone call from a pastor who shared his growing concern about wife-spanking in his family of churches. For this is also the main way families have been organized for thousands of years. No this isnt the argument at all. Finally, Daisy be more Christ-like; keep your nose out of my bedroom. I have never married. (the link to their blog is currently on the upper left hand side of the page): When you first commented on here, I was prepared to hear you out I know someone personally who has fetishes, and hes admitted to me that can be a struggle for him in his marriage. Classical Conversations #7: Business or a Non-Profit; Cult or a Christian HomeschoolGroup? [redacted] did not report the incident right away because she was afraid of retaliation and did not know what to do. While social sciences are a useful tool, you perfectly demonstrate how they can be used as a convenient tool to outlaw deranging opinions and lifestyles by justifying the move by supposed facts. Jenna's Christian Domestic Discipline Marriage Im about the only one here who actually quotes scripture. And like you, I really enjoy being described as a feministit means a ton of different things, but generally its not something I get accused of, either. Carrie, what conclusion did Pat Robertson come up with to help this husband? And I expect I was twisting or misinterpreting scripture with the Mark 11 quote, wasnt I? [redacted] said in a counseling session Jamin has admitted to using anger as a teaching tool for [redacted] like you would train a dog. Do you find that you need it as much or less over the last 30 years? Youre the one with issues and hang ups in regards to sexuality. Its not right. And to start confessing, I am forgiving (or ever going to forgive) those who have wronged me is a step on the road to freedom. Im a happy happy wife! Anonymous, experience project.com, 12. I think I would be OK with that, especially if anonymous. Ben also has no problem spanking me long after I start to cry. What can be done to safely expose these abusers for what they really are and protect these women. When it comes to twisting, and even mistranslating, Scripture it is amazing how [s]ome people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest. Coleman v. CIR (791 F.2d 68 at 69 (7th Cir. Yesterdays post at ACJF, http://cryingoutforjustice.com/2015/07/03/a-typical-characteristic-of-an-abuser-he-never-stops-trying/, addresses this very phenomenon: It is not surprising that abusers are accusers. As far as this message is concerned I understand and respect your point. [redacted] has confided in [redacted] and [redacted] about Jamins abusive behavior. Uh oh. The professionals are the ones to turn to. Did you meet your ex-husband at church or was he from outside the church? Sometimes, he will seek my input about rules or behavior standards. Yet you call yourself a child. I was also grounded for a month. Previously I have shown Domestic Discipline to be both a Biblical concept as well as a historical practice amongst husbands for thousands of years on my Instagram page @biblicalsexandiscipline and on my blog Biblicalgenderroles.com as well as podcasts series on BGRLearning.com. Rock showed the stars and you looked at the finger. Your testimonial will be added to this blog so that other people can benefit from and be inspired by your experiences with Christian Domestic Discipline. These abused wivesare treated as children or objects to be owned. Male headship is followed all over the world. The all knowing psychologist above is concerned with a relationship that infantilizes a woman. Me too. (Ill let her tell you one way or the other, if she wants to.). Male rulership of women is common all over the world, because it is a result of sin entering humanity, just as God had predicted: God told the woman man would rule over her God was saying that was a result of the Fall. I asked you above if you are a man or woman and did not get a reply. The article was popular with over 600 comments. May we all work to protect women and expose this shameful sin and crime in our churches. In other words, they have achieved complete dominion over their wives as God commanded of Adam and all husbands in Genesis 3:16. For better or worse, most states had laws restricting what was allowable between husband and wife in the bedroom. All of these questions and more are answered in this podcast series. No one is tricked or trapped into that, even if you seem to have the concerning desire to save people from themselves because it just cant be right. I have always made a point of emphasizing how much I love and respect him for being our HOH and not falling into the trap that other men do. It should be private. Guide to Implementing Christian Domestic Discipline I never heard or suspected anything growing up. Change). My father told me the pain I caused my mother when she gave birth to me pleased him. For anything can be labelled an abuse with this method. That is abuse in marriage. My father and his loser ilk liked Christianity because no woman with any self respect would stay married to them once she got to know the real him, have sex with him, or have children with him. Its not just me that talks about your husband having authority, Julie Anne. The Bible does not teach that men have God given authority over women. Whats the problem with superior/inferior relationships? He was so different than the other Christians I had met, many of whom tormented my Jewish best friend and my completely secular family. I dont think were terribly concerned (to the point of lobbying against these laws) that teachers having sex with their adult students is going to come back with a vengeance just because it is human nature. In fact, if such anger is not expressed, it must be suppressedonly to come out sidewise at some unexpected time. For this purpose moderation and tolerance are key. If you only have tolerance for lines of thinking that you are happy to tolerate, then you are intolerant. And you seem to see yourself not as a good child, a child of the light, but as a dark child. I believe the misogynists you identify are not Christians. I dont believe they are Christians. You are telling 100pinkapples that she needs to take a Christian response to her abusers and to her own pain, and to see a pastor for counselling. Christian Domestic Discipline No, no previous assumptions, just submitting to the plain word of God will do for me. In the beginning I would test him all the time to see if he was serious. Do you have a problem with that? Meanwhile, what Jesus called the two most important commandments are completely ignored. He began by making a case for many years. Enjoy each others smug, judgmental company. I can also say , please sir may I go to bed without my nightgown and thats me asking to be intimate, Ben almost always says yes. I think you should take the time to study what you want to criticize for you do not know what you are talking about (and this is not some sort of insulting rethoric, this is to be taken literally). (starting with Genesis 2:18 and 3:16 funny how many great verses in the Bible are 3:16, isnt it? Michael is worried sick over his wife's whereabouts, and he's determined to put a stop to her irresponsible behavior. (Both know of the relationship my husband and I have, as we have talked with them about the joys of a CDD relationship.). Either they think you are into some sort of kinky lifestyle or they think you are a mindless doormat. Jesus, gracious and merciful savior, the one who didnt punish me for my sins, but sacrificed yourself on a cross so that I could be forgiven before your just and holy father, in whose name I love and cherish my dear wife and sister in Christ, please help me as I beat her black and blue for disrespecting me!! Those verses are being filtered by you through a patriarchy lens; they do not teach or support male authority over women, nor do they limit all women of all times, cultures, and churches from leading and teaching. Instead of, you know, just talking to each other. Send in your testimonials! People are lost and growing frustrated). Unless I agree with you 100%, Im outside of the will of God? I have a lot of respect for your father, and husband. Even praying to be able to forgive is a start. Christian Domestic Discipline There is no biblical support for your position repeatedly quoting Eph 5.22 and the like is not proof for your stance, because you interpret such passages incorrectly. You need to give their views more serious study and attention. that. Which is another reason that role playing is dangerousOK, Im not good enough for you, but if I dress up as Kim Kardashian, thats OK now?. Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. Its important to note that Lauren was spanked as a child through adulthood. She was there every step of the way. Click on the image at the top or you can click here to go BGRLearning.com to subscribe and listen to this series as well as hundreds of other biblical gender roles related podcasts. It never occurred to me to suppose that 100pinkapples might not be a Christian. Wheres the barf bag? We were not married until I turned 19 though. Lets discusshymens. When it comes to being intimate its only Ben , it would be a bad sin with anyone else. As a society have always restricted what two consenting adults can do. Certain things like really bad attitude, yelling at anyone in the house, throwing a fit when mad, or being disrespectful (especially in front of others) will all add up to a bad whippin after a while. No, Bike Bubba, by role play I meant dressing up as a type, not as another person. They told me that I needed to do a better job of obeying and not being disrespectful or difficult and told me I needed to pray more to be a better wife. Its not just me that talks about your husband having authority, Julie Anne. I found an old post of yours from last year. Guided Wife A blog on my desire to be virtuous and submissive I have learned that he LOVES!! The church needs to know this is going on. My life changed when I was 31. Our families, and some of our friends think we are nuts, me mostly, for living this way, but I can honestly say that the 10 years of our marriage I am most happy knowing that I can at any moment end up crying with a sore bottom over my husbands lap. his God-given authority and actually lead.. But since then youve gone on to talk as though male headship is required in all Christian marriages, and as though feminism is some kind of dirty word. Spare the rod, spoil the wife I love them but our relationship is often strained. I was too worked up to explain. christian domestic discipline A History of the Corporal Discipline of Women January 11, 2023 In this third and final part of my three-part series on Christian Domestic Discipline, we explore how the practice of domestic discipline continue through the middle-ages and even into America up until the mid-20th century. People here sound like anecdotes outraged them so they decided to throw the baby with the water and prosecute, prosecute, prosecute no matter what. This practice is about two consenting adults who are free to leave the relationship at any time, period. I wonder if we could have the connection. I do not normally comment on web forums, but I wanted to counter-balance this thread.

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